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Great article! I chuckled when you compared "right wing NIMBY's" with "anti developement socialists" as often agreeing on thisone issue. In the SF bay area where I am from and (barely, in the far exurbs) still live, most NIMBY's have long tended to be "moderate", largely affluant but variably educated (there are still plenty of tradesmen, police, firefighters etc among this group) culturally normie Democrats. But some ARE also socialists or very left wing, but not most. Many of the older ones were once moderate Republicans who voted for Reagan and Bush Sr, but would be largely loath to admit that (or may even actively be in denial of it) today. In most of the US including elsewhere in California such as within the greater Sacramento area, much of this population is still comprised of solidly working to lower middle class homeowners, and the lower working class renters living among them are not all that much differant (they are often relatives in fact).

I should at this point mention that I am here refering to groups that within much of the SF Bay Area are still majority comprised of the now minority Anglo-White population of this region, but (mostly US born or raised) Asian Americans and some Latinos and others are indeed filling the voids as many have increasingly intagrated into or (mostly) just grown up within these particular broud social groupings.

And honestly, while their partisan and associated social idials may differ, in a practicle cultural sense the majority of the above group seem little differant then the otherwise similer suburban Republicans I have known, -while both are quite differant then most hard core urban-inner suburban progressives, especially younger ones (though even the latter have become much more geographically dispersed in recent years as well). Most are pretty typical native Californians of the suburbs and exurbs. And this broud, anti-urban, normie suburban/exurban culture, despite it's substancially urban roots (though many did also come directly from small towns or rural areas to suburbs in most parts of the US including California) has increasingly merged with that of truly rural and small town America over time. That maturation of this decades long trend that really began in the 1960's is truly what led to the rise of Trump, among other things.

Then there are the largely older (but also some younger) very politically left wing but simultaniously very traditional New Englandy types, mostly upscale, that are typical of NIMBY'S and others in the old affluent parts of Berkeley, the Oakland hills, much of suburban Marin County etc etc. This latter group can on occasion be shockingly out of touch and seemingly self contradictory with some of their comments, though much less so now then say, 10-15 years ago, as cancil culture came for many of them with a vengence and they have not forgotten it.

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